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Chi vuole farsi sentire lo sta già facendo da qualche tempo.

Al 99%, chi decide di far trapelare qualcosa non lo fa per fede calcistica, perché magari ha un buon lavoro e non vuole rischiare di perderlo. Le motivazioni principali spesso sono altre, ma a noi vanno bene lo stesso. Continuiamo a lottare!

Le talpe vanno protette e tutelate. Chi vuole farsi sentire lo sta già facendo da qualche tempo Continuiamo a lottare!

Le società non daranno mai i numeri. Qualche singolo dipendente, trovato il modo di restare anonimo, può dare cifre molto vicine a quelle reali per molti motivi. Magari per togliersi qualche sassolino dalla scarpa.

C'è differenza tra fake news e rumour non verificabile: il secondo può provenire in ottima fede da calcoli realistici su dati noti, da indiscrezioni provenienti da ambienti affidabili... o fatti circolare da chi vuole fare le scarpe a un collega. Qualcuno ha capito che è stata raggiunta la massa critica che legittima la protesta e fa circolare rumour che facilitano l'effetto-emulazione.

Grazie mille! Chiedevo perché non so se l'offerta fosse presente già da domenica mattina. In tal caso, difficilmente sarebbe conseguenza della nostra protesta. E noi continuiamo a lottare!

Ecco, questo è ciò che dicevo un paio di giorni fa. Se - SE - davvero quest'offerta è scontata di almeno il 50% rispetto al prezzo prima dell'inizio della protesta, è un OTTIMO segnale che siamo sulla strada giusta. Per favore, potete verificare?

Siamo uniti, compatti e determinati! Continuiamo a lottare!

In qualche redazione comincia a circolare quota 180000.

Buongiorno. Sono d'accordo, è un video che può sembrare solo provocatorio. Non credo possa aiutare la protesta. Comprendo lo spirito, ma lo cancellerei Continuiamo a lottare!

Hanno più potere a Roma che non a Napoli. Quando i nemici siamo noi sono coalizzati, ma ora sarebbe un'altra storia.

Qualcuno su un sito di informazione poco ortodosso ma spesso ben informato vorrebbe scrivere che il secondo posto (della Roma) vorrebbe dire scudetto, ma non lo fa per non dare nell'occhio troppo in anticipo. Cosa disse Chinè? "Sanzione afflittiva, dietro la Roma". Fanno bene a preoccuparsi a Napoli.

Tendenzialmente sarei stato d'accordo con te, ma mi sono ricreduto quando ho visto i comunicati dei JOFC. Mi accusano di frignare perché non mi sta bene la penalizzazione, ci tengo a spiegare come stanno le cose. Il testo concentrato andrà preparato per la diffusione sui social, generalizzata. Questo è un testo che deve necessariamente dare qualche informazione sulla sentenza, sulla protesta, su cosa rappresenta la Juventus per il calcio italiano (nel caso il testo finisca direttamente a qualche testata giornalistica, come accade per i comunicati stampa aziendali). Nemmeno a me piace scrivere in questo modo, ma rischieremmo di non far capire per quale motivo protestiamo.

Anch'io Iliad, e mi trovo bene. 160GB, 9.90 al mese.

SESTA BOZZA - sì, sarebbe da snellire, ma è giusto spiegare almeno a grandi linee le motivazioni del processo e della nostra protesta, le modalità della stessa e tre frasi di background. Provo a tagliare qualcosa, fatemi sapere (ma appena posto questa bozza vado a nanna) *** Ho tagliato una riga e mezza. Vedete voi. Possiamo preparare una versione light, tagliando un paio di concetti. Il punto fondamentale è: se la mandi ai nostri tifosi all'estero, loro già sanno chi e cosa è la Juventus. Se la passano a qualche piccola testata locale, più informazioni diamo, meglio è, perché si trovano il pezzo già scritto (ammesso che non abbiano problemi di spazio, e sul web non dovrebbero averne). Di sicuro, una volta che all'estero avranno certificato la ricezione, dovremo mandar loro un testo concentrato per i social tipo Twitter, in lingua locale, da usare se vogliono (ma per noi sarebbe un modo per essere certi che passa il messaggio che vogliamo, e non una loro interpretazione) *** To all our supporter clubs and Bianconeri fans around the world. As you are probably aware, Juventus have been docked 15 points following sustained and repeated media attacks and an unfair trial organised by the Italian Football Federation. The trial followed an investigation into the club's transfer market, after Juventus had already been cleared of all charges in a previous trial. All the other teams involved in the trial and investigation of the same offence were acquitted. This inexplicable outcome raises the question of how it is possible for Juventus to have declared false values for players transferred to and from other clubs when the other clubs involved in those transfers have not been found guilty. This is just the latest (and probably not the last, in the twisted minds of our persecutors) trial based on non-existent, false or manipulated evidence. We no longer accept that we are the target of this witch-hunt, which is regularly set up with the sole aim of hampering our strength on the pitch. Furthermore, the Italian Minister for Sport, Andrea Abodi, said in an interview on January 23rd that rules are needed in Italy to avoid distortions in the way the value of players moving from one team to another is determined, meaning that Juventus have been found guilty despite the absence of rules on the matter. We, the Juventus supporters of Italy, have decided to take a strong stance against this injustice against our team: with immediate effect, we have severed all links with the press, broadcast media and websites. In particular, we have decided to boycott broadcasters such as Dazn and Sky and to cancel our subscriptions. In this way we are expressing our intention not to watch any Serie A matches, a league whose results are decided in the courts rather than on the pitch. We also want to send a clear message to the Lega Serie A and the Italian Football Federation (F.I.G.C.) that we will not accept that Juventus is the only club to be found guilty of something that is not sanctioned by any law, something that at least 10 other Serie A clubs have been doing for years. We will only buy official Juventus merchandise, watch the club's official TV channel JTV and support our players at the Allianz Stadium in Turin. Our decision has been shared and publicised by joint official statements from the official Juventus fan clubs in most Italian regions, with the rest to follow shortly. Juventus fans are currently cancelling their pay-TV subscriptions and boycotting sports TV channels, newspapers and websites that have attacked Juventus, creating a widespread feeling of hatred that has poisoned the Italian football scene. Our civil, legitimate and peaceful action has been the top trending topic on social media since Saturday, January 21st, and has become popular across the country. Sports channels and other mainstream media are refraining from mentioning our protest, but they have already taken action by offering heavily discounted subscriptions to win back fleeing subscribers. This is an unmistakable sign that our protest is working, with cancelled subscriptions already in the six-figure range. We would greatly appreciate your support in contacting local sports newspapers and websites and informing them of the true nature of our protest. We are fighting together for a better football with equal rules for all participating clubs. FC Juventus are the football club with the most fans in Italy, with an incredible 8.1 million tifosi on a total of 24.5 million supporters (30% of all supporters in Italy are Juventus fans: see https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2022/08/08/classifica-tifosi-serie-a/). The club has invested in the Italian football economy over a 850,000,000 euros in the last 12 years, being by far the largest contributor (see: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/2023/01/24-102663229/c_il_sistema_juve_s_quello_che_investe_nel_calcio_italiano_il_miliardo_che_non_fa_notizia). We are united. We are determined. We will continue our fight. Fino Alla Fine Forever Juventus

UNDER REVISION 🙂

Non uso traduttori automatici, quando serve cerco testi simili. Giusta l'osservazione su come vengono considerati i team in inglese, non quella su "following": https://www.thefreedictionary.com/following (con il valore di preposizione)

Se non avete commenti, torno a lavorare su Twitter. Però pare che qualche redazione abbia capito che il comunicato del Nord America verrà fatalmente ripreso da qualche testata internazionale, e si stanno chiedendo se valga la pena fare la figura di quelli che non si accorgono di cosa gli sta succedendo sotto al naso, o - peggio - di chi vuole nascondere le cose.

QUINTA BOZZA PER FAVORE ATTENDETE ALTRI COMMENTI PRIMA DI INVIARE, NON CI FACCIAMO UNA SPLENDIDA FIGURA A MANDARE REVISIONI A RIPETIZIONI GRAZIE To all our supporter clubs and Bianconeri fans around the world. As you are probably aware, Juventus have been docked 15 points following sustained and repeated media attacks and an unfair trial organised by the Italian Football Federation. The trial followed an investigation into the club's transfer market, after Juventus had already been cleared of all charges in a previous trial. All the other teams involved in the trial and investigation of the same offence were acquitted. This inexplicable outcome raises the question of how it is possible for Juventus to have declared false values for players transferred to and from other clubs when the other clubs involved in those transfers have not been found guilty. This is just the latest (and probably not the last, in the twisted minds of our persecutors) trial based on non-existent, false or manipulated evidence. We no longer accept that we are the target of this witch-hunt, which is regularly set up with the sole aim of hampering our strength on the pitch. Furthermore, the Italian Minister for Sport, Andrea Abodi, said in an interview yesterday that rules are needed in Italy to avoid distortions in the way the value of players moving from one team to another is determined, meaning that Juventus have been found guilty despite the absence of rules on the matter. We, the Juventus supporters of Italy, have decided to take a strong stance against this injustice against our team: with immediate effect, we have severed all links with the press, broadcast media and websites. In particular, we have decided to boycott broadcasters such as Dazn and Sky and to cancel our subscriptions. In this way we are expressing our intention not to watch any Serie A matches, a league whose results are decided in the courts rather than on the pitch. We also want to send a clear message to the Lega Serie A and the Italian Football Federation (F.I.G.C.) that we will not accept that Juventus is the only club to be found guilty of something that is not sanctioned by any law, something that at least 10 other Serie A clubs have been doing for years. We will only buy official Juventus merchandise, watch the club's official TV channel JTV and support our players at the Allianz Stadium in Turin. Our decision has been shared and publicised by joint official statements from the official Juventus fan clubs in most Italian regions, with the rest to follow shortly. Juventus fans are currently cancelling their pay-TV subscriptions and boycotting sports TV channels, newspapers and websites that have attacked Juventus, creating a widespread feeling of hatred that has poisoned the Italian football scene. Our civil, legitimate and peaceful action has been the top trending topic on social media for the last 4 days and has become popular across the country. Sports channels and other mainstream media are refraining from mentioning our protest, but they have already taken action by offering heavily discounted subscriptions to win back fleeing subscribers. This is an unmistakable sign that our protest is working, with cancelled subscriptions already in the six-figure range. We would appreciate your support in not subscribing to the channels that broadcast Juventus matches and in not visiting websites (including those of sports newspapers). We would also appreciate your support in contacting local sports newspapers and websites and informing them of the true nature of our protest. We are fighting together for a better football with equal rules for all participating clubs. We will not accept Juventus being accused and found guilty of something that most other Serie A clubs have been doing for years without suffering any FC Juventus is the football club with the most fans in Italy, with an incredible 8.1 million tifosi on a total of 24.5 million supporters (30% of all supporters in Italy are Juventus fans: see https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2022/08/08/classifica-tifosi-serie-a/). The club has invested in the Italian football economy over a 850,000,000 euros in the last 12 years, being by far the largest contributor (see: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/2023/01/24-102663229/c_il_sistema_juve_s_quello_che_investe_nel_calcio_italiano_il_miliardo_che_non_fa_notizia).consequences. We are united. We are determined. We will continue our fight. Fino Alla Fine Forever Juventus

Grazie. Preparo la quinta bozza cole le correzioni.

La frase completa è "As you likely know, following continued and repeated media attacks and an unjust trial organized by the Italian Football Association, FC Juventus has been docked 15 points" "Following..." significa "in segfuito", il soggetto è Juventus, il verbo è "has been docked", è stata penalizzata. Il following iniziale disorienta noi italiani, è una forma idiomatica inglese

QUARTA BOZZA PRIMA DI VALUTARE SE USARLA CERCATE LA FOTO DELLA PRIMA PAGINA CON ABODI E ALMENO UNO DEI COMUNICATI JOFC REGIONALI E ALLEGATE SE AVETE MODIFICHE DA PROPORRE DITELO, CERCHIAMO DI NON MANDARE LO STESSO DOC PIÙ VOLTE (scusate il maiuscolo) To all our supporting clubs and to all the Bianconeri supporters around the world. As you likely know, following continued and repeated media attacks and an unjust trial organized by the Italian Football Association, FC Juventus has been docked 15 points. The trial followed an investigation into the club's market transfers, after FC Juventus had already left the court clear of any accusations in a previous trial. All other teams involved in the process and investigations about the very same infringement have been cleared of any accusations. This unexplainable outcome makes you wonder how it is possible that FC Juventus has been able to declare false values for players transferred to and from other clubs, if the other clubs involved in those transfers have not been found guilty. This is only the most recent (and probably not the last, in the twisted mind of our persecutors) trial based on non-existing, false, or manipulated pieces of evidence. We no longer accept to be the target in this witch-hunt that is periodically set up with the only goal to hamper our strength on the pitch. Furthermore, Italy's Minster of Sports, Andrea Abodi, said yesterday in an interview that rules are needed in Italy to help avoid distortions about how to determine the value of players moving from one team to another, meaning that FC Juventus has been found guilty notwithstanding the absence of rules on the matter. We Juventus supporters from Italy have decided to take a strong stance against this act of injustice against our team: with immediate effect, we have cut any link with the press, broadcasting media, and websites. In particular, we have decided to boycott broadcasters such as Dazn, Sky, and to cancel our subscriptions. In this way, we express our will not to watch any Serie A match, a league whose outcome has been decided in a court rather than on the pitch. We also want to give the League Of Serie A (Lega Serie A) and the Italian Football Federation (F.I.G.C.) the clear message that we will not accept that FC Juventus is the only club found guilty of something not sanctioned by any law, that at least other 10 Serie A clubs have done for years. We will only buy official Juventus' merchandise, follow the club's official TV channel JTV, and support our players at the Allianz Stadium in Turin. Our decision has been shared and publicized by joint official statements of the Juventus Official Fan Club from most Italian regions, with the remaining ones following shortly. Juventus fans are currently canceling their Pay TV subscriptions and boycotting sports tv shows, newspapers, and web sites that have attacked Juventus, creating a widespread sentiment of hatred that has poisoned the Italian football scene. Our civil, legitimate, pacific action has been topping trending topics on social media for the last 4 days, and has become popular across the nation. Sports broadcasters and other mainstream media are refraining from mentioning our protest, but they have already taken action offering heavily-discounted subscriptions to win back fleeing subscribers. This is an unmistakable sign that our protest is paying dividends, with cancelled subscriptions already in six-digit figure. We would appreciate your support in avoiding subscribing to those broadcasting companies that air Juventus' matches, and refrain from visiting websites (including ones run by sports newspapers). We would also appreciate your support in contacting local sports newspapers and websites, and inform them of the true nature of our protest. We are fighting together for a better football, with rules equal for all participating clubs. We will not accept that FC Juventus is accused and found guilty of something most other Serie A clubs have done for years, without suffering any consequences. FC Juventus is the football club with the most fans in Italy, with an incredible 8.1 million tifosi on a total of 24.5 million supporters (30% of all supporters in Italy are Juventus fans: see https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2022/08/08/classifica-tifosi-serie-a/). The club has invested in the Italian football economy over a 850,000,000 euros in the last 12 years, being by far the largest contributor (see: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/2023/01/24-102663229/c_il_sistema_juve_s_quello_che_investe_nel_calcio_italiano_il_miliardo_che_non_fa_notizia). We stand united. We are determined. We will continue our fight. Fino Alla Fine Sempre Forza Juventus

QUARTA BOZZA IN ARRIVO DATEME DUE MINUTI

TERZA BOZZA PRIMA DI VALUTARE SE USARLA CERCATE LA FOTO DELLA PRIMA PAGINA CON ABODI E ALMENO UNO DEI COMUNICATI JOFC REGIONALI E ALLEGATE SE AVETE MODIFICHE DA PROPORRE DITELO, CERCHIAMO DI NON MANDARE LO STESSO DOC PIÙ VOLTE (scusate il maiuscolo) To all our supporting clubs and to all the Bianconeri supporters around the world. As you likely know, following continued and repeated media attacks and an unjust trial organized by the Italian Football Association, FC Juventus has been docked 15 points. The trial followed an investigation into the club's market transfers, after FC Juventus had already left the court clear of any accusations in a previous trial. All other teams involved in the process and investigations about the very same infringement have been cleared of any accusations. This unexplainable outcome makes you wonder how it is possible that FC Juventus has been able to declare false values for players transferred to and from other clubs, if the other clubs involved in those transfers have not been found guilty. This is only the most recent (and probably not the last, in the twisted mind of our persecutors) trial based on non-existing, false, or manipulated pieces of evidence. We no longer accept to be the target in this witch-hunt that is periodically set up with the only goal to hamper our strength on the pitch. Furthermore, Italy's Minster of Sports, Andrea Abodi, said yesterday in an interview that rules are needed in Italy to help avoid distortions about how to determine the value of players moving from one team to another, meaning that FC Juventus has been found guilty notwithstanding the absence of rules on the matter. We Juventus supporters from Italy have decided to take a strong stance against this act of injustice against our team: with immediate effect, we have cut any link with the press, broadcasting media, and websites. In particular, we have decided to boycott broadcasters such as Dazn, Sky, and to cancel our subscriptions. In this way, we express our will not to watch any Serie A match, a league whose outcome has been decided in a court rather than on the pitch. We also want to give the League Of Serie A (Lega Serie A) and the Italian Football Federation (F.I.G.C.) the clear message that we will not accept that FC Juventus is the only club found guilty of something not sanctioned by any law, that at least other 10 Serie A clubs have done for years. We will only buy official Juventus' merchandise, follow the club's official TV channel JTV, and support our players at the Allianz Stadium in Turin. Our decision has been shared and publicized by joint official statements of the Juventus Official Fan Club from most Italian regions, with the remaining ones following shortly. Juventus fans are currently canceling their Pay TV subscriptions and boycotting sports tv shows, newspapers, and web sites that have attacked Juventus, creating a widespread sentiment of hatred that has poisoned the Italian football scene. Our civil, legitimate, pacific action has been topping trending topics on social media for the last 4 days, and has become popular across the nation. Sports broadcasters and other mainstream media are refraining from mentioning our protest, but they have already taken action offering heavily-discounted subscriptions to win back fleeing subscribers. This is an unmistakable sign that our protest is paying dividends, with cancelled subscriptions already in six-digit figure. We would appreciate your support in avoiding subscribing to those broadcasting companies that air Juventus' matches, and refrain from visiting websites (including ones run by sports newspapers). We would also appreciate your support in contacting local sports newspapers and websites, and inform them of the true nature of our protest. We are fighting together for a better football, with rules equal for all participating clubs. We will not accept that FC Juventus is accused and found guilty of something most other Serie A clubs have done for years, without suffering any consequences. We stand united. We are determined. We will continue our fight. Fino Alla Fine Sempre Forza Juventus

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